Banned Interview: What Truly Works

Interviews given to media outlets.

Banned from publication.

Deemed too “controversial” for audience consumption.

Created confusion in how to “couch or market it.”

Transcripts being published here.

This is the first being revealed.

Others may be revealed.

 

Interviewer: (I)

Myself: (M)

 

I: Kapil, please tell us about yourself.

M: Nothing to tell.

I: You have nothing to tell?

M: No.

I: Why is that.

M: It is of no consequence. Ask what you wish to ask.

I: Many people know your work, but few know You. This is why I am asking.

M: My work matters more than me.

I: You seem to be an enigma.

M: (Silence).

I: I will begin with something I don’t understand. And I doubt many do. The topic of prescriptions. You say that they don’t work.

M: Prescriptions are methods, techniques, how-to’s, hacks, five-step plans, and so on. If you or anyone else finds that such things work for them, so be it.

I: But you say that they don’t.

M: It matters not what I say. It matters only what you have found to be true, in your own experience.

I: I must admit that I have received little benefit. Most, if not all such things, have not worked for me. You’ll be happy to know.

M: This doesn’t make me happy or unhappy.

I: But it proves what you say.

M: I am not in search of proof for a thing that I already have come to know.

I: You have many works available, and have written an enormous amount of material on various and diverse topics. Yet you maintain an extremely low profile.

M: (Silence).

I: I’ve been watching your messages and writings for a long time, and I see for instance that you begin a talk spontaneously and out of the blue. Everything you do is without advertisement or scheduling or warning.

M: I do not believe in schedules.

I: Perhaps I’m reading too much into it, but this thought keeps coming to mind. A person could almost make the case that you make a concerted effort to limit the number of listeners. It’s almost as if you don’t want people reading your material or listening to your talks. Otherwise, you would advertise and post messages of upcoming talks.

M: I do not have much of an interest in volume or a mass populace.

I: You’re the only one I’ve ever seen who does this. Why do you do it? Just curious.

M: The people of the world are not serious or sincere. I have no interest in appeasing them. Or having them collect in my domain by the thousands.

I: You may or may not know this. But in closed circles around the world, your name comes up as sort of a mysterious . . . almost mythological individual. It’s said you’re the highest paid coach in the world, in any field. Is this true?

M: I am not a coach.

I: And yet you work with some of the biggest names in sports and industry. The names of most of whom are shrouded in secrecy.

M: I “coach” none of them.

I: You don’t believe in coaching?

M: No.

I: Can you explain?

M: I could, but it would fall on deaf ears.

I: You think I wouldn’t understand? Or the audience?

M: Neither you, nor the audience.

I: Can you make us understand?

M: I cannot.

I: Why is that?

M: Because in order to understand such things one must be in a certain place.

I: A certain place?

M: Yes.

I: What place is that?

M: It isn’t a physical place.

I: This is too difficult to grasp.

M: As I said . . .

I: I don’t want to believe that you’re refusing to explain.

M: I refuse to dumb it down.

I: I’ve never heard that before. Why not?

M: Because dumbing it down destroys the essence. Dumbing it down is for the dumb.

I: You don’t appear to have much faith in human beings.

M: There is no need for faith. All is readily on display.

I: Faith doesn’t work. Prescriptions don’t work. Then what works?

M: Truth is the only thing that works.

I: But who has the truth?

M: Who has devoted his or her life to it?

I: What would be a message you’d like to leave the audience with.

M: I have no message for the audience.

I: It seems I keep hitting a brick wall with every question.

M: Yes.

I: Why?

M: Because you are used to receiving responses to questions that are fundamentally an entertainment.

I: An entertainment?

M: Yes.

I: In what way?

M: In every way possible. How many times have you asked questions such as ‘leaving a message with the audience?’

I: I ask every guest this question.

M: What effect does this have on the audience?

I: I don’t know.

M: Exactly. You are simply flying blind. Asking entertainments.

I: I don’t know what to make of your bluntness.

M: I am simply saying the way it is. Your audience is here to be entertained. And you are the ringmaster. Nothing wrong or evil about it. It is just the way it is.

I: What questions would you like me to ask you.

M: It isn’t about the content.

I: Then what is it about?

M: The sincerity. The depth. The seriousness.

I: Seems I might have to prepare for a long time before doing this interview.

M: You don’t have to do anything. I am simply a mismatch for the sort of guest you’re looking for.

I: I’m going to think a lot about this. Thank you for your time, Kapil.

 

Namaste.